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:smokin: don't forget that bazooka for your Retreat!

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Like GTA?

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:smokin: Please stop PMing me. I really don't want to "meet for coffee" and explore your dreams about me.

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Oh no! An r/c car with a gun! Surrender immediately! Pee your pants just thinking about it!

Well, maybe not. The only new capability here is the robot gets shot, not the operator. Plus they have terrain handling, agility and perception problems... all while having no shortage of vulnerable components.

This is one to file alongside barf rays and teargas. New doesn't = invincible.

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??????:confused_ma:

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Oops, wrong thread :embarasse

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Israel deploys robo-snipers on Gaza border

By Lewis Page - Published Tuesday 5th June 2007 12:07 GMT

Israel has begun deploying stationary robot gun-and-sensor installations along its borders with the Gaza Strip, according to reports.

Both Jane's Defence Weekly and Defence News reported last week that the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) have begun deploying automated gun stations in pillboxes along the Gaza border. The robot systems are said to mount cal-fifty (12.7mm) machine guns, protected by "armoured folding shields" until ready to fire.

Defence News says the auto-gun network is developed by Rafael, the Israeli state weapons bureau. Given the reported calibre of the weaponry, this suggests that the gun-bots in use are the Mini-Samson type, normally used as a remote-controlled gun turret on light fighting vehicles so as to avoid a gunner having to poke his torso up out of a hatch (top gunner is one of the most dangerous jobs in counter-insurgency vehicle patrolling.)

In this case, the automatic guns and their long range electro-optical sensors will be tied in by optic fibre to a command network which will also be able to draw information from existing ground sensors, manned aircraft, and overhead drones.

According to Defence News Tel Aviv correspondent Barbara Opall-Rome, "each machine gun-mounted station serves as a type of robotic sniper, capable of enforcing a nearly 1,500-meter-deep no-go zone".

"The IDF's Southern Command is also considering adding Gill/Spike anti-tank missiles to extend the no-go zones to several kilometers, defense and industry sources here said."

The integrated robo-sniper network has reportedly been dubbed "See-Shoot" by the IDF, suggesting that asking questions isn't on the priority list.

"Nobody has any business approaching our border fence," an unnamed Israeli official told Opall-Rome. "It's well-understood that this area is off-limits..."

All in all, the Israeli gun-bot force seems distinctly more hardcore than the South Korean one. Not only do the IDF robo-snipers pack a more arse-kicking gun, their automatic armour-shuttered pillboxes seem a lot harder to circumvent than the Korean SGR-A1's "anti-theft alarm".

What's more, there seems to be a future plan for the Israeli gun systems to become true killer robots rather than just remote hardened weapon stations.

"At least in the initial phases of deployment, we're going to have to keep the man in the loop," an unnamed IDF commander reportedly told Opall-Rome. "We don't want to risk making tragic and politically costly mistakes with such a lethal system."

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If only our borders were half as secure. I'd be fine with a remote sentry unit firing those paintballs filled with pepperspray.

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Don't worry we are in the process of building a fence, our borders are very secure!!! :sarc:

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Of the 800 miles authorized by Congress we now have 13 miles actually built today.

:banghead:<-- 13 miles of fence

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Would love to see the command and control signal get hacked and overridden - turn these things against them.

These new toys wouldn't stand a chance against a .50 cal not to mention a 2 foot deep trench with a protruding lip, or an unseen tiger pit. The real story here is "look at which weapons contractor just got millions of your tax dollars to build high tech toys.

The whole "a soldier's life is so precious to us" is such a crock of shit - considering how soldiers are treated before, during and after their service to the country. We can't afford body armor, but we managed to find the money for these overpriced machines....what a f'n joke !!

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That was a pretty one sided portrayal of those swords. No limitations were talked about and they were shooting at stationary targets on a range instead of moving targets on a real battlefield. They have them find a "sniper" behind a mound of dirt in an open field that isn't allowed to move or shoot. I would like to see them try that demonstration in heavy bush. Just a big propaganda piece.

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These robots are designed only for an urban assault on people's homes, apartment buildings, and neighborhoods.

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Remote control killing machines. Wonderful approach to neutralizing over-population, eh?

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That was exactly my point though. That is a much different environment than that open field they used to show these things in action. An open field where there is virtually no cover or place to hide and where their optics would give them a good advantage. Compare that to an urban environment. Sure they showed one clip of one going up some stairs. How are these things going to open doors? Or climb over rubble from a bombed out building. Those things aren't that quiet like they said they make a mechanical hum. What happens if you attacked from above or behind quickly? It didn't look like the gun turret was very fast.

Here is another related article. Funny they didn't mention any transmission problems or a chance the robot could go crazy in the video. Like I said propaganda.

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Is there a smiley face with it's jaw dropped off the page? Because thats the only thing I can really say in response to that image. You really own one?

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Hive what is that weapon ? Model make calibre please ?

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And when the machines became self aware they began to eradicate the humans. BWAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAAA
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I think its an SVT-40 in 7.62x54R, the last time I saw one as nice as that one was on Gunbroker, bidding started at $1,700 or so. Very nice :D

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You can find all sorts of wonderful specialty ammo for the 7.62x54r. This includes AP, incendiary and even explosive ammo. Romanian PSL's are hitting the market again and offer a lower cost alternative to the SVT-40 but keep in mind that the PSL's and Druganov's are designed for light ball ammo. Just as well, Czech silver tip steel core, though not "true" AP, is fairly readily available and fits this criteria. Either way 7.62x54r is no joke. Some big fmj from my Mosin smokepoles will disable any weapon, sensor and commo on those r/c cars. Best news is 7.62x54r isn't classified as pistol ammo(unlike some other .30cal rifle cartridges, yes the BATF sucks) and it is a round still in active service. This means interesting lots of new surplus ammo should continue to come available as long as we can prevent our politicians from cutting off our supply.

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Hey Rev: PSL? I have a Mosin with a fair stock of 54r but would like to pick up a semiauto. Any recommendations?

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Where's my EMP grenade?

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Has the 54R ammo always been that cheap, or did North Korea just sell off their stock?

My buddy just picked up an old Nagant, I think it was a 36'.

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